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Those of you who are fans of Theodore Roethke will be appalled amused to hear that last night on Later With Jools Holland I heard someone singing "The Waking". Singing. It annoys me anyway when people try and put poetry to music, because the words have their own rhythm and I think the music ought to try to match that rhythm and not fight it, which is what this one was doing.

Plus, the guy couldn't carry a tune in a bucket. And when he was finished Holland had the cheek to compare his singing to a Stradivarius. Even I, who am almost tone deaf and have never picked up a violin in my life, could probably get a better sound out of a Stradivarius than the one coming from this guy's mouth. Grrr. Roethke must be rolling in his grave.

Other things that have annoyed me this week; ethnocentrism and inverted snobbery. Aaaaaargh.

Ha, I feel much better now. So. How are you?

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Date: 2007-11-10 10:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] revbiscuit.livejournal.com
Generally pissed off. But I think I'm just having a bad day.

First I went past a car with one of those stickers that say No to the European Union, which I appreciate is just an opinion, but it still makes me feel oddly unwanted.

Then I bought a running magazine that exposed me to my first taste of running wank.

I don't like people much today.

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Date: 2007-11-10 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kill-claudio.livejournal.com
People are morons. If it makes you feel any better, I will say Yes! to the European Union. :)

I read the link you posted to the running wank, and particularly loved this line:
'Running emerged as a way to catch something edible. Anyone who took up jogging in the Neolithic Era starved to death.'

Er, no. People in the Neolithic were farmers. They weren't jogging because they were too busy building fences to keep the sheep in and creating advanced irrigation for their crops. Running would be a dreadful hunting strategy - what human could hope to outrun a gazelle or a bison? < /archaeology rant> They have no idea what they're talking about. Seems like a pretty poor marketing strategy to me.

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Date: 2007-11-10 10:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leafy22.livejournal.com
Hey k_c, I had a traumatic Jools Holland experience too!!
I decided to record it - because Neil Finn + Michael Stipe = Line Up of *Joy* - but after about three minutes my dvd recorder started making crunching and grinding noises and flashing error messages. I then spent most of the show trying to get the disc out of the machine before unplugging it (I reckoned hurling it out of the window would invalidate the warranty just a wee bit!) However, since I shoved a tape in the trusty old VCR I managed to catch most of the programme and watched it with added interest after I read your post.

I think you were quite kind with your comments - there wasn't much of a tune to carry, bucket or not! I am vaguely musical, playing an instrument in a local wind band, but that style of improvised jazz singing doesn't particularly appeal to me and when it happens with someone else's words if feels like a bit of a liberty really. The number didn't especially work for me and I can imagine it being even more irritating if the words have a familiarity and a resonance for you.

Things that have annoyed me this week? Workmen who leave hacksaws unattended in a corridor outside an infant classroom and realising the tin of soup in my otherwise vegetarian cupboard isn't chunky vegetable but lamb and vegetable.

Still, a large mug of mulled wine seems to have made me feel a bit better about things - although it has made me a bit befuddled about apostrophes...I hope they're all in the right place!

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Date: 2007-11-10 11:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kill-claudio.livejournal.com
You saw it too! *clings* I was afraid for a bit that I had had some kind of weird Jools Holland-related hallucination! Wasn't it dreadful? :)

Hacksaws lying around in a primary school? *shakes head* I hope none of the children were hurt. And I can utterly sympathise with the lamb thing - I'm vegetarian too and I find myself having to look very carefully at the descriptions on things. The pretty pictures always lie, dammit!

Heh, your apostrophes were impeccable, well done. :) Wine sound like an excellent idea though...maybe my essay will make more sense after a couple of glasses...

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Date: 2007-11-11 07:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] luzula
Huh, I actually love setting poetry to music, and it's something I've done since I was little. It's fun to try finding a tune that, as you say, matches the rhythm of the words, and it's incredibly satisfying if I feel I get it right. And then you can make up harmonies to the tune, etc. But of course, I see why you might find someone else's tune jarring, if it doesn't match the way you think of the poem.

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Date: 2007-11-11 09:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kill-claudio.livejournal.com
Yeah, I think that was the problem, that the tempo of the poem in my head is very different to the one he sang it at. Plus, the guy really could not sing. *g* If it was you writing the music I might feel very differently - I certainly loved your rendition of Northwest Passage.

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Date: 2007-11-11 09:57 pm (UTC)
luzula: a Luzula pilosa, or hairy wood-rush (Default)
From: [personal profile] luzula
Well, thank you! Hmm, I have a strange problem with the song-writing thing, though. I can set poetry to music, and I can apparently write new lyrics to existing music, but I've never been able to write an entire song from scratch. Oh well.

And you're right -- hearing people perform who are really not good at it can be kind of awful.

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